I realize this seems like it takes up a huge amount of my time. It doesn't. I've always been one to ponder this type of stuff, and most of what follows will be stream of consciousness.
Before I get into anything new, I'm going to go over some of the comments from last time.
Comments and Responses
Erin: "I think you are on to something, but that it is only half of the picture. I feel like there will be a scientific explanation and a spiritual explanation that are either competing with one another, or complementary to one another (yin and yang)."I totally agree. There must be a spiritual or supernatural component of some kind.
Erin: "On a more detailed note, are you sure it's Michael on the boat? It is a possibility, but I think we need some more info on Walt's status as a spirit or living being. Also, wouldn't the people on the freighter have figured out that Michael was a passenger on Oceanic 815?"I'm certainly not sure, but I feel like this is the best of all of my predictions. I just feel it. I know it's coming. It's a way to bring that character back onto the show. It also is supported by Ben's future use of Sayid. As far as identification, I assume that Michael would be working under an assumed identity...Ben clearly does that, as evidenced by his drawer of 423 passports. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer for Walt.
Brendan: "Do you think the island has always existed in this alternate universe? Did something happen to cause it?"A good question. I'm not sure. I feel like its existence may have something to do with electromagnetism, but I don't know how it was created. I wonder if that will ever be explained...and if it is, if the origin will be relevant to the whole story.
Brendan: "Why do the "others" do science experiments? Psychological experiments? Do they want to improve the world? Are the others good, bad, or indifferent to the world off the island? And I'm dying to hear about the temple they headed off to. What’s the deal with the Dharma initiative? How did they "discover" the island. Were they able to get to the island using conventional means?"Again, no clue. Are the "others" doing experiments, or was that just DHARMA? I feel like the "others" are just happy to be there - in other words, relatively indifferent to the outside world - and that DHARMA and the freighter folks are more concerned with learning everything they can. I wonder if their first trip to the island happened because they were present at its "creation" or if they just stumbled upon it.
Brendan: "I thought Kate had a baby too. I love the twist that it's Aaron. I assume that means his mother didn't make it off the island and Jack feels bad about it for some reason. There goes the vision which caused Charlie's "death"."I loved that as well. I had no idea it was coming. I don't know if that means Desmond's vision was wrong - maybe Claire and Aaron get on a helicopter and then Claire gets off. Maybe Claire asked Kate to take Aaron. Maybe Claire gets on the helicopter and doesn't survive the trip back. I feel like that's the most likely option, and that it's likely that Jack does have some guilt.
New stuff
I am hopeful that the next episode (Desmond) is probably not a flash-back or a flash-forward, but is instead another Desmond Time Travel Adventure.™ That would explain why he's battling a long-haired Daniel Faraday in the preview - I'm guessing he interacts with him in the "past," or whatever it is. It's just like when he ran into Charlie on his previous trip - he had seen him, but didn't remember because it wasn't significant enough to register.
I'm even more hopeful of a Widmore connection to the freighter folk after their response to Desmond's questions about Penny. Namely, that the freighter-ites just looked at each other and didn't say anything. As I've mentioned, I think that the relevant Widmore is Charles, with possible Hanso and Paik involvement.
I think that the 5th and 6th members of the Oceanic 6 are Sun and Jin. Sun has to leave the island, because she's pregnant. Jin wouldn't let her go alone. They're on the beach already. The last episode set up that Jin is looking for places to live in America, which could play in later if they're #5 and #6.
I'm less certain, but I think that Jin may be the body in the coffin that we saw in last year's season finale. Nobody would have gone because nobody in America knows the Kwon family. Kate wouldn't have wanted to see him because he did something wrong when leaving - maybe it's his fault that Claire didn't make it. Maybe he did something awful when they were all back in America. Last year, I would have suggested Michael. Jin is my best guess at this point.
The scene with Daniel trying to "remember" the playing cards Charlotte laid out was very interesting. Long ago, I had a thought that maybe the people on the island were repeating this process over and over with zero to minimal knowledge of the previous times. It happened like that on an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation that I saw in high school, which is no doubt where I got the idea. I don't think that's the case, but I do think that conversation is directly related to the way time functions on the island...which is definitely different than it functions elsewhere. The fact that the helicopter has been gone for "a day" in island time...well, I don't think that's "a day" in regular time. I don't even know if it's anything in regular time.
I actually question if Ben can leave the island at will. Is it possible that he can exist both on the island and off? This would play to the mirror theory a little, I think. Also, that could explain "The Orchid." If you haven't seen the instructional video for "The Orchid," in the extras on the Season 3 LOST DVDs, it's...interesting.
Does Miles really just want $3.2 million? And why that amount? Even if that's his motivation, he's still been brought to the island for a purpose other than finding Ben. He's a ghostbuster, after all.
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All right, I have finally watched all three episodes that I missed this season, and I'm still confounded. I want some answers. No more questions. I think there are sixteen layers to the plot now, and I'd like to figure some out before they keep adding more!
I do agree with Dave's theory, and Erin's theory. I think the spiritual aspect may help explain the "apparitions" on the island, such as Jack's dad, Kate's horse, and Walt at various ages.
And I'd REALLY like to get to the bottom of the smoke monster. There is something both scientific and spiritual about it. Since it doesn't like the Dharma people or the Others, I don't quite know how to categorize it.
I'm wondering if Locke made a mistake or did something wrong, which is why he can't find Jacob's cabin, or why the cabin moved. It was Locke's responsibility to keep the freighter people off the island, and he failed. So, maybe he has lost some privileges?
And finally...maybe Miles is on the island to look for Jacob? There must be an unseen force of some kind on the island, given everything that has happened.
I think that Miles might actually be the guy in the casket, and not Jin. The Oceanic Six would have known him, and he certainly isn't a guy that had many friends. I wouldn't be surprised if no one attended his funeral.
All right, that is enough for now. I should probably do some work.
I thought the same thing as claire - miles in the coffin. it is quite the possibility especially given the celebrity status of the "oceanic 6."
I also agree that locke must have done something that is causing the island to punish him. I was thinking it was because he killed naomi, but I am not sure that is the case since the island didn't seem to have much of a problem with crazy ben. although, has ben actually killed anyone?
so, do we think that kate kidnapped aaron, or that claire gave him up willingly? I think that desmond's vision must happen, but that something goes wrong. although I don't think that claire is going to die because she seems like she might be pivitol to the plot esp. given that she is christian shepard's daughter. I definitely think that aaron is pivitol to the plot. the episode raised by another was very interesting with the pyschic telling claire that she HAD to raise her baby and then purposefully putting her on the plane. also in that episode, claire dreams of john locke with one white eye and one black eye telling her that they are all going to pay the price of her giving him away. foreshadowing?
I also think the most recent episode reinforced how self-serving kate is. there is just something so sketchy about her character. also, last night I watched the final episode of season three, and I had forgotten the moment when jack is about to throw himself from the bridge, and he looks up and says "forgive me." they must have done something pretty awful to get themselves off the island.
also, I think that is a definite possibility that ben has a clone on the outside world. or some special power to be in two places at once.
I feel like my blog is becoming a glorified LOST messageboard. And I like it.
I like the suggestion that Miles is in the coffin. The part of LA the funeral home appears to be in makes sense, since we first see Miles in a flashback in Inglewood. I hadn't even considered him.
I don't think that Kate kidnapped Aaron. It's possible that even if that is true that Claire didn't give him up willingly, however.
What if Aaron is really pivotal to the plot? WILD THEORY ALERT - Aaron grows up, goes back in time, and returns to the island. Aaron is Jacob. WOoOoOoOOooOOOOOO! That was a spooky ghost noise, in case you couldn't tell. Actually, I've been thinking lately about the grandfather paradox (that you can't go back in time and kill your grandfather) - in this example, the psychic knows that Aaron has to be born on the island, or he won't come under the care of Kate, who won't get off the island and raise Aaron, who then can't come back and be Jacob, so then...a number of other circular things follow. Of course, this requires a "destruction of the universe" theory of paradox resolution, which I don't necessarily buy (though that would explain why Desmond has to push the button to "save the world," etc).
I definitely agree that Jack has a serious amount of guilt. I feel like their leaving the island was the result of some kind of Faustian bargain, whether or not they realized that was the case when they made it. I am very certain that we will see some very dark things very soon.
just posting a correction to my previous post. I asked if ben killed anyone and then realized that, yes, in fact ben has killed many people including his own father.
p.s. last night episode was amazing.
I had totally forgotten about Claire's dream with Locke, thanks for reminding me Erin! I did think about Claire raising her own baby, also... Maybe Aaron really does become pivotal. I mean, he is the first baby to be born on the island in quite some time, since Alex, and so he might have some sort of island sense or powers that the rest of them do. Maybe this means that Alex also has a special role? Lots of foreshadowing, regardless...
I thought last night's episode was awesome, although slightly confusing. I'm still trying to figure out the time loop a little bit. Specifically, how did Daniel figure out the specs for his time travel machine? He had to tell Desmond to inform the Daniel in the past...thus, he clearly figured it out on his own.
Is it possible that Desmond gave him the specs at a much earlier time, and he started experimenting with himself? That would explain his memory confusion.
In regard to Erin's theory about Ben and a clone or body double: maybe Ben has mastered the time travel aspect of going to and from the island? Not only can he jump anywhere in the world, he can jump anytime, too? I think Ben's black box that gives you anything you want has something to do with it...
And finally, I agree with Erin that Kate is ridiculously self-serving. Until we found out that her baby was actually Aaron, I thought she was protecting her son, which was nice. However, I think Kate feared her mother would realize it wasn't her biological child, and that is why she didn't allow her to meet him.
Dave, I don't know what to think about the Aaron time travel thing... I'm still processing the Desmond stuff.
I do, however, find it fascinating that when they time travel, their bodies become inert, or comatose.
And finally...Desmond must have jumped forward and back in time just once after the hatch exploded...but how far forward? Far enough to predict the future, at least until Charlie died. He also jumped back... and then landed in the present? And how did he not manage to become completely unstuck at that point? Was it because he was still on the island?
I have to stop myself now, or I could type forever...
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